UPDATE: According to MLBTR.com Manny may be looking for 5 years for $85 million years. NO WAY do I go for it if these are the conditions. 5 years is way too many.
The three major free agents this offseason are CC Sabathia, Manny Ramirez, and Francisco Rodriguez. Listening to Mets fans talk, they want all three. This definitely will not happen as all three will be demanding large and expensive contracts. CC will probably be asking for 5-7 years. Manny will be looking for at least 3-4 years. K-Rod will be looking forat least 4-5 years. I think that all 3 of these contracts at their asking price will be too much because Manny is 37 and has been injured in the past, CC has thrown a ton of innings the past 2 years and any 7 year deal is alot, K-Rod has lost a few MPH on his fastball and has a violent motion. Having any 3 of these players would significantly change the view on this team. Having a lineup starting Reyes, Beltran, Wright, Manny, Delgado is ridiculous. Johan and CC would be the best 1-2 punch in baseball. K-Rod is a significant upgrade over Luis Ayala/closer by comitteee that the Mets finished with. There are guys I would sign over each of them due to age, $, or shorter contract term (Dunn, Perez/Sheets/Lowe, Fuentes/Wood). However I would not be against signing any 3 of these guys, which I think readers thought after my last couple of posts. Manny would be a great signing for a 2 and possibly even 3 year deal as long as we can keep him happy. Manny is also known as a "clutch" player which many believe is important. Although if you look at it statistically, clutch is an overused term but thats aside from the point. K-Rod is great but will be overpaid because of the flashy but relatively hollow saves record. He is a top 10 closer and would be a good signing but he may take away $ to improve the rotation, lineup or rest of the bullpen. CC is probably the riskiest signing because of the lenght of the contract and the innings he has pitched. It would also be the most lucrative contract because teams like the Yankees and Angels will also be involved in the bidding but the Mets may have an edge up on them because we are in the NL.
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Manny actually isn't very injury prone. He's mostly lazy. You gotta love Manny
I'd say Manny is probably the best guy for the mets to sign of the 3, as I have already suggested they do in my previous post. Of the 3 pitchers you named, Sheets is always injured, so signing him would not be a good move. Perez is sporadic, either being amazing or getting lit up and walking the ball-park; he beats good teams but not shitty teams. Lowe, of those 3, would be the best fit. He is consistent, he knows how to win in the play-offs and correct me if I'm wrong, but has a Ring. As for the closer, Wood would be good, but I'm not sold on Fuentes, who lost his job in '07 to a rookie.
i like picking up fuentes
Good pickup , Good Price
Lowe gives you the most consistency but he is also the oldest and most likely to decline. Perez is the most likely to improve because of his age. Sheets is amazing if healthy. Fuentes lost his job but he wasn't exactly terrible in 2007. Also he did win back the job with a very good 2008. Having a ring isn't nearly as important as people make it out to be (especially Yankee fans who try to use that in arguing who is a better player). Santana doesn't have a ring but Lowe does. Who would you take? Lowe is the cheapest and most likely to be the worst out of the 3. Manny probably is the best to sign depending on years. If he wants 4 years then maybe K-Rod would be the best to sign as long as we get someone like Dunn in the lineup.
I'm just throwing in the fact that Lowe has play-off experience as opposed to the other two who don't, and since the mets have wilted in back to back septembers, adding play-off experience would be a good thing. I know you love Dunn, but he is a K machine and also, when he was brought in to help Arizona make the play-offs, his put up ok numbers. He doesnt get a lot of rbi's, just hits a lot of homers.
Steve, Lowe having playoff experience doesn't help when they don't make the playoffs. They fell apart in the regular season not the post season. I do like Lowe though and he would be a good pick up.
I would sign Manny over Dunn only if the contract is no longer than 3 MAYBE MAYBE 4 years. Otherwise go sign Dunn. He strikes out alot but if you think about it, K is no worse than any other way to get out, and in some situations may be even better (man on first w/ 1 or 0 outs is better than a GIDP). He isn't a great player but he is good and he is in his prime. He led the NL in walks, 2nd in HRs in MLB, and top 10 in NL in OBP and OPS. He never had a lot of RBIs but he also bat in the nubmer 2 hole often b/c of his high OBP. Also when he bat lower in the line up like 5th, look at the teams he was on. Neither the Reds nor the D-Backs have a lot of offense or good table setters for Dunn. Dunn batting in the 5 or 6 hole behind Reyes, Beltran, Wright, Delgado, Church is very formidable. He is a safer bet to be more productive than Manny in 2+ years because is 7 years younger. He also would cost less which allows the Mets to use the money on pitching.
UPDATE: The Red Sox have won the ALDS. Get at me Angel Fans.
also you can only sign 2 type A free agents
hes only asking 5 years because you have to aim high..no one in their right mind would give him 5 years so basically its an attempt to raise the bid...
If there are 14 or fewer Type A or Type B free agents available, no team can sign more than one type A or B player. If there are between 15-38, no team can sign more than two. If there are between 39 and 62, there's a limit of three. However, teams can sign as many Type A or B free agents as they've lost, regardless of the limits above.
Well obviously it's an attempt to raise the bid but some team may actually give him 5 years. I just hope it's not the Mets.
hey if its the Mets, so be it! We'll have him for 3 great years and if we win a World Series in those 3 years I'll happily pay him the final 2 years in which he could still even produce who knows. Hes got about 3 great seasons left and you have to love our chances if hes in the Met lineup. Makes the people in from of him better and behind him.
Give Manny 65/3 max, let him stumble around left field until fmart is ready.
I like perez if it's something like 48/4, anymore more than that I'm going with Lowe. Perez is good and has showed flashes of top of the rotation stuff, but he could just as well regress. Love the guy, but too big a risk throwing him front line starter money.
No to krod unless he's willing to sign for 45/4 or something in that neighborhood.
This team, the way it is now, will be a legit contender for years to come. I hate the idea of blowing loads of money to pick up free agents to win now, when reyes and wright aren't even in their primes. If we have to wait a few years until the team develops and better free agent opportunities arise (holliday, anyone?)... I don't really mind.
Also, I love your inclusion of Harden on the DL for your "favorite team." That's great haha
well, play-offs are the time of the most pressure, and if you cant hold a september lead then forget about them. Experience and veteran leadership are needed down the stretch when the team is tired and if they start to falter at the end. Lowe can provide that more that sheets and perez. Also, I agree that Lowe would want less than the other two, and I think the mets need to have more $ available for the bullpen than to tie up in starting pitching, since they do have santana, maine, and pelfrey guarenteed to be there.
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